"I had two failed IPO attempts in the '80s and early '90s, and then I had a successful IPO in 1998 with another company. So I'd been around and seen a lot of investment bankers. And when I got a call from you, I had this conversation with this person that was like, ‘this guy can't be an investment banker. He's a human being.’ It was just a, a breath of fresh air. I had no intention on doing anything. We were cash flowing, we were making money. By the time the conversation was over, I said why don't you get to know the company a little bit? We became not only a professional relationship, but a friendship, which has really paid off for me over the years in many ways financially, but also in ways of just having someone I can always call on anything, just, run the ideas by."
"I had two failed IPO attempts in the '80s and early '90s, and then I had a successful IPO in 1998 with another company. So I'd been around and seen a lot of investment bankers. And when I got a call from you, I had this conversation with this person that was like, ‘this guy can't be an investment banker. He's a human being.’ It was just a, a breath of fresh air. I had no intention on doing anything. We were cash flowing, we were making money. By the time the conversation was over, I said why don't you get to know the company a little bit? We became not only a professional relationship, but a friendship, which has really paid off for me over the years in many ways financially, but also in ways of just having someone I can always call on anything, just, run the ideas by."